FIGU Forum Q&A – Atlantis/FIGU论坛问答 – 亚特兰蒂斯

资讯源头:FIGU/ ‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier

资讯主题:FIGU论坛问答 之 “Atlantis”
资讯来源:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/..(资讯链接随问题注释)
内容中译:利昂小子
中译日期:2019年10月18日 – 22日
校译日期:2019年10月23日,周三
推送类型:中文域-[中译]
资讯备注:这是一篇非正式且未经授权的中译版资讯,内容基于英文源版译制,请注意我们的译文可能存在错误。
资讯注释:FIGU论坛上的回复不一定都是Billy本人做出的,也有可能是经由「Semjase Silver Star Center/Semjase银星中心」的核心小组成员转达Billy的意思;又或依据Billy的教导和解释做出的说明。

Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hallo Billy
Billy,您好,

Do you know anything about the Pelasgians and Illyrians,???
您知道任何关于「Pelasgians/佩拉西亚人」和「Illyrians/伊利里亚人」的事情吗???

please tell to me a litle bit of those ancient European people are they descandent of the Atlantis and MU,probably small Atlantis ,,or do they are the ancendent of Arus I the barbar thats why maybe the ancient hellens told to them and their language the barbarians.
请告诉我一些(关于)这些古代「European/欧洲人」的事情,他们是…(「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」、「MU/穆」,还有可能是「Small Atlantis/小亚特兰蒂斯」人类)…的后裔吗(?),又或者,他们是‘barbar/野蛮人’「Arus I/阿鲁斯一世」的祖先(?),也许正因为如此,‘ancient hellens/古希腊人’才说这些人是野蛮人,并用他们的语言‘barbarians/野蛮人’来表述这些人(?)。

salome
Salome

the moderator thanks this was my only question to billy but first time i did wrong formulate.
主持人,谢谢,这是我向Billy提出的唯一一个问题,但我第一次做了错误的表述。

Beli
Beli

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Billy doesn’t know.
Billy不清楚。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hallo Herr Meier
您好,Meier先生,

Do you know the true origin of the man called Hermes/Toth/Tehuti who according to the legend came from Atlantis and taught the ancient egypts
您知道那个叫「Hermes/Toth/Tehuti」的男人的真正起源吗(?),根据传说,这个人来自「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」,并教导了‘ancient egypts/古埃及人’。

among other things the ‘universal principles’ (cause-effect, vibration, rythim, polarity etc), and was also called ‘the tongue of Ptah’ ???
除此之外,‘「universal principles/普遍性原则」’(‘cause-effect/因果’、‘vibration/振动’、‘rythim/韵律’、‘polarity/极性’等),同样也被称为‘「the tongue of Ptah/Ptah之舌」’???

take care
保重

and thanks for ALL !!!!!!!
感谢所有人!

Memo00
Memo00

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

No.
不知道呢。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Dear Billy,
亲爱的Billy,

Henoch’s prophecies state
「Henoch」的预言说到:

‘…the North American continent will be stricken by the most terrible catastrophe which ever will have been recorded…’
“…「North American/北美大陆」将遭受有史以来最可怕的灾难…”

Will this catastrophe be worse than the annihilation of the continent Atlantis and will its cause be natural or man-made?
这场灾难会比「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」大陆的毁灭…更加严重吗?它的起因将会是自然的…还是人为的呢?”

Michael_d
Michael_d

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Man-made, plus natural.
人为的,加上自然(因素)。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

for the persons involved there will be no difference.
对受此影响的人们来说,这没有任何区别。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Dear Billy,
亲爱的Billy,

is there anything to be found in the future, (any object or device), as a proof of existence/destruction of Atlantis.
在未来,是否会有什么东西被找到,(任何物体或者设备),(能够)作为「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」(曾经)存在/毁灭的证据呢(?)。

Thank you,
谢谢您,

Salome,
Salome,

Dejan
Dejan

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Billy doesn’t know.
Billy不清楚。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Dear Billy,
亲爱的Billy,

Valery Uvarov has written a book about ‘The Wands of Horus’, which were used by the Ancient Egyptian priests to synchronise their bodily energy system with that of the Earth.
「Valery Uvarov/瓦莱里·乌瓦罗夫」写了一本关于‘「The Wands of Horus/荷鲁斯魔杖」’的书,该书被‘「Ancient Egyptian/古埃及」’牧师用来…使他们身体的能量系统与「Earth/地球」的能量系统相同步。

Valery states that the Shemsu-Heru were bearers of knowledge and technologies of a higher order from whom the race of pharoahs sprang and that they were Atlanteans who came to Egypt about 12,000 years ago after the destruction of Atlantis.
「Valery Uvarov/瓦莱里·乌瓦罗夫」声称:「Shemsu-Heru/舍姆苏赫鲁人」拥有更高层次的知识和科技,从中崛起了「Pharoahs/法老」一族;(「Valery Uvarov/瓦莱里·乌瓦罗夫」)还声称:这些人是在「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」毁灭之后、在大约12,000年前来到「Egypt/埃及」的「Atlanteans/亚特兰蒂斯人」。

In the corrected version of Contact 70, it is apparent that Atlantis was destroyed 100,000 years earlier than previously written i.e. in 109,458 BCE-therefore it took a long time for Atlanteans to arrive in Egypt!
在第070次「Contact Report/接触报告」的修订版中,很明显:「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」是在早于…之前所写(日期)…的100,000年前被摧毁的,即:在公元前109,458年,因此,这些「Atlanteans/亚特兰蒂斯人」可真是花了相当长一段时间才抵达「Egypt/埃及」啊!

My Question:
我的问题是:

Did the descendants of the Atlanteans bring their knowledge and technologies( such as The Wands of Horus) to Egypt about 12,000 years ago?
「Atlanteans/亚特兰蒂斯人」的后裔是否在大约12,000年,将他们的知识和科技(比如:「The Wands of Horus/荷鲁斯的魔杖」)带到了「Egypt/埃及」呢?

[ If not then, when? If not them, who?]
[如果不是在那个时候,那是在什么时候呢?如果不是这些人,那是什么人呢?]

Thanking You,
感谢您,

Charles.
Charles

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

This ‘The Wands of Horus’ thing is pure nonsense.
这个‘「The Wands of Horus/荷鲁斯魔杖」’一说,完全是胡说八道。

Billy doesn’t know about the activities of the descendants of the Atlanteans
Billy并不了解「Atlanteans/亚特兰蒂斯人」后裔的活动情况。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Dear Billy,
亲爱的Billy,

Could you please mark an X on a map where the center of Atlantis was located?
能否请您在地图上标注一下…「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」的中心…(曾经)位于哪里?

Norm
Norm

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

No, because Billy doesn’t know
不能,因为Billy也不清楚。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hey Billy,
嘿,Billy,

I wanted to ask you about the dialogues written by Plato.
我想问您关于…「Plato/柏拉图」所撰写的「The Dialogues/对话录」…的事情。

Is there any truth in the two dialogues
在这两次对话中,涉及到什么事实吗?

– Timaeus and Critias (between Timaeus, Critias, Socrates and Hermocrates) written by the Greek Philosopher Plato about Atlantis?

由「Greek Philosopher/希腊哲学家」-「Plato柏拉图」所著…「Timaeus/提麦奥斯」和「Critias/克里提亚斯」(在「Timaeus/提麦奥斯」,「Critias/克里提亚斯」,「Socrates/苏格拉提斯」还有「Hermocrates赫莫克拉提斯」)之间…关于「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」…的对话?

I ask this because in the conversation, Socrates asks Critias in the dialogue Timaeus to say an actual fact and he told him a story of Atlantis, I wanted to verify from you if this was true.
我之所以问这个问题,是因为在交谈中,「Socrates/苏格拉提斯」让对话中的「Critias/克里提亚斯」讲述一个真实的事实,然后他(即:「Critias/克里提亚斯」)给他(即:「Socrates/苏格拉提斯」)讲述了一个(关于)「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」的故事,我想向您求证这件事是否属实。

Simon
Simon

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Plato heard that information from other storytellers.
「Plato/柏拉图」是从其他故事讲述者那里…听到这些信息的。

Btw:
顺便说一句:

Much of what the old philosophers have written is quite banal.
古代哲学家所写的大部分东西…都相当平庸。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

hi Billy,
嗨,Billy,

I find it rather odd that it can happen in real terms that a spirit-form is able to evolve to the Jshwjsch level yet still involve itself in highly selfish, scheming worldy matters…
让我觉得相当怪异的是,这在现实中真的会发生:一个‘spirit-form/灵魄’即便能够进化到「Jshwjsch/智慧之王」的水平,其本身(却)还是会卷入高度自私、诡计多端的世俗事务…

such as tricking the native humans of ancient antiquity into the belief that they are in the company of Gods, also demanding blood sacrifices, not to mention being involved in a vast array of warring conflicts in the pursuit of power/conquest etc.
比如:诱骗古代那些(智力)未开蒙的古人们,让他们相信这些人(即:「Jshwjsch/智慧之王」)与「Gods/诸神」是一伙的,还要求(人类)‘blood sacrifices/血祭’,更不用说在其(即:「Jshwjsch/智慧之王」)追逐权力/征服的(过程)中…(让人类)卷入大量的战争冲突等。

It just seems a contradiction in terms
只是在术语上,这显得有点自相矛盾:

ie Jschwjsch meaning ‘king of wisdom’ ; yet in a very many instances the actions of these supposed wise beings was in fact, in reality, totally heinous and despicable in the extreme, and just plain unwise
例如,‘「Jschwjsch/智慧之王」’意即「King of Wisdom/智慧的王」;然而在非常多的情况下,这些被认为‘wise beings/明智的生命’(即:「Jshwjsch/智慧之王」),其行为却在事实上、在现实中、在极端情况下…完全的可憎和卑鄙,而且完全没有明智。

surely they would have envisaged that by stirring up trouble (as in the case of Atlantis/lemuria conflict) they would inevitably bring about their own destruction too, (the simple cause & effect result from their scheming machinations.)
他们肯定会设想:通过挑起争端(就像挑起「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」/「Lemuria/利莫里亚」的冲突那样),他们也将不可避免地…给他们自身带来毁灭(一场源于他们狡诈阴谋的简单‘cause & effect result/因果结局’)。

How is it possible that they would have turned their back on the laws of creation to such a degree?????
他们怎么可能…(会)违背『Creation/创造』的法则…(到)如此程度呢?

surely they would have been guided by spiritual laws/directives just to get to the JShwjsh level in the first place
从一开始,他们接受灵性法则/指令的引导(的目的),就一定只是为了达到「JShwjsh/智慧之王」的水平。

it is just very hard to fathom how could have let themselves slide to this degree into such derelict modes of behaviour??
只是很难搞清楚,他们(究竟)是如何让自己一步一步沦落到如此‘derelict/废弃自我’的行为模式的呢?

Like with respect to the issue of time travel and not altering past events, should creation not have some kind of safe-guard in respect to this too ;
像是关于「Time Travel/时间旅行」和‘not altering past events/过去不可改变’的议题那样,『Creation/创造』难道不应该在这方面设置某种‘safe-guard/安全防护’(规则)吗(?);

that Jschwjsch beings are not permitted to reach such a powerful stage unless they have completely relinquished their cravings for power and propensity for evil-doing.?
也就是说:除非他们(即:「Jshwjsch/智慧之王」)完全摒弃他们对权力的渴望,以及对‘evil-doing/邪恶行径’的倾向,否则,(这些)「Jschwjsch/智慧之王」(水平)的人类生命…就不应该被允许达到如此强大的(精神)阶段。

(evil-doing…ie behaviour incorporating negative ramifications.)
(‘evil-doing/邪恶行径’…例如:涉及负面后果的行为。)

Aslo as an after-thought…it would appear, when it comes down to it
同样的,作为一项‘after-thought/补救措施’…当(负面)情况发生时,(这项规则)就会显现出来:

that the vast majority of the world’s problems are really a direct result of JSchwjsch power abuse (ie the coming into being of erroneous god-worshiping thus the formation of corrupt and misleading world religious bodies/institutions that have been evolution-stifling and totally nonsensical, not to mention also the catastrophic influence of the Giza group) .
世界上绝大多数的问题,确实都是由「JSchwjsch/智慧之王」滥用权力造成的直接后果(例如:形成错误的‘god-worshiping/神明崇拜’,并因此产生了腐败和误导世界的宗教团体/机构,这些团体/机构已经进化到了令人窒息、且完全荒谬的地步,更不要提「Giza Group/吉萨集团」带来的同样灾难性的影响)。

Don’t the P’s in effect owe us A LOT MORE
难道Plejaren不觉得他们实际上亏欠我们很多(?)

and should try to take CONSIDERABLY MORE active and effective actions in order to try and remedy a basically dire overall world situation.
而应该采取更多、更积极和有效的行动,以试着补救这个总体上(已然)糟糕透顶的世界局势吗(?)。

even if they dont’t wont to give certifiable proof of their existance
即便他们不想(给「Terran/地球人」)留下他们存在的有力证据。

perhaps it is incumbent upon them to do so.
也许,他们有责任这样做。

(once again – to do more because of the fact that us earth humans have been SO mis-led/screwed-around-with and are in such dire straits with an absolute myriad of near impossible to solvereal world dillemmas/problems that the P’s, when it really boils down to it,fundamentally hold responsibility for.)
(再一次的 – 由于我们「Earth/地球」人类已经被误导/扭曲到如此严重的地步,身陷如此悲惨的境地,并面对着数不清的、几乎无法解决的、现实的全球性难题/问题,难道当所有这一切真的被点爆时,Plejaren不应该从根本上为此承担起责任,而多做一些事情吗。)

Saalome.
Salome.

Gib_niner
Gib_niner

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

You have a false understanding of the term Jshwish (IHWH).
你对「Jshwish/智慧之王」(「IHWH/智慧之王」)这个术语的理解…是错误的。

This is just a title for person who has very high knowledge in a certain field (or in certain fields) of knowledge, like science, technique, spiritual teaching.
这只是针对在某一领域(或者在某些领域)…(像是在科学、科技、灵性教导领域)…拥有极高领域认知的人士,所给予的头衔。

The title must be seen in relation to the average knowledge in a population.
该头衔必须与人口的平均知识(水平)相关联、体现。

Not all people who have been labelled as Ishwish have been so regarding wisdom.
(因此,)并非所有被贴上「Ishwish/智慧之王」标签的人,都拥有与此(标签)相匹配的智慧。

E.g. the one person who produced the IHWHMATA, the ring nebula, was technically far advanced, but in terms of wisdom he was lacking poorly.
例如:那个制造了「IHWHMATA/上帝之眼」(「The Ring Nebula/环形星云」)的人,他在技术层面非常领先,但在智慧层面就很是欠缺。

And of course:
当然,还有:

As long as you are a human being with a body of flesh and bone, there always remains the possibility that you may fall back into old bad habits.
只要你是一名有血有肉的「Human Being/人类」,那你就总是有可能退化到旧日的不良嗜好中。

The events of the past on this planet cannot be blamed on the JHWHs alone, but also on their followers and all the other people who are refusing, up to this day, to bear their own responsibility for their own thinking, feeling and acting.
过去,在这颗星球上发生的事情,并不能单单归咎于(那些)「JHWHs/智慧之王(们)」,(需要为此负责的…)还有他们(即:「JHWHs/智慧之王(们)」)追随者们,以及所有其他…(直到今天都还在拒绝为他们自身的‘thinking/思想’、‘feeling/情感’和‘acting/行为’承担起责任)…的人们。

There is no ‘safe-guard’ by Creation to prevent human beings from doing ill.
『Creation/创造』并没有(所谓的)‘safe-guard/安全防护’…来阻止「Human Beings/人类」作恶。

We have our free will to either bad or good.
无论是坏的事物,还是好的事物,我们都有「Free Will/自由的意志」。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

It’s up to each person to learn from one’s mistakes (and even from the ones of our neighbours) and to try to lead a life that doesn’t affect other people, animals, plants and the entire planet in a negative way.
这取决于每一个人从其(自身的)错误中…所学到的(甚至是从我们身边邻居的错误中…所学到的),以及(我们是否致力于)努力过上一种…不会以一种负面方式…影响到其他人、动物、植物和整个星球的生活。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Billy,
Billy,您好,

Thankyou for your answers to my previous questions-The Wands of Horus, Fühlen Clarification and The Destruction of Atlantis.
感谢您回答我之前(关于)…(「The Wands of Horus/霍勒斯魔杖」,「Fühlen Clarification/费伦澄清」和「The Destruction of Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯的毁灭」)…的问题。

Thanks also to Christian for his clarifications.
同时也要感谢Christian(对相关问题)的澄清。

C70 states that Pelegon together with 70,000 humans arrived on Earth 190,000 years ago according to terrestrial time calculation (Lines 90 to 92) and that unity and peace prevailed for 10,000 years until Jesas came to power (Line 105).
「Contact Report/接触报告」-070#指出:根据‘terrestrial time/地球时间’计算(第90行至第92行),「Pelegon」是在190,000年前,与70,000名人类一起到达「Earth/地球」上的,并且「Unity/统一」与「Peace/和平」持续了10,000年,直到「Jesas」执掌权力(第105行)。

After 20 years the people rose up against Jesas (Line 106) and many fled from the war to the region of Beta-Centaurus (in another space-time configuration).
20年之后,人民起来反抗「Jesas」(第106行),有许多人从战争中逃离到了‘the region of Beta-Centaurus/半人马座贝塔区域’(处在另一个时空结构之中)。

The Earth was avoided for 700 years after which the descendants of those who fled returned to Earth (Line 110), this being 133,000 years before today’s time calculation.
在躲避了「Earth/地球」(的战争)700年之后,那些(曾经的)逃离者的后代重返「Earth/地球」(第110行),这是发生在距今133,000年前的事情。

The time span 190,000-133,000=57,000 years does not equate with 10,000+20+700=10,720 years.
时间跨度‘190,000-133,000=57,000年’,并没有等(同)于‘10,000+20+700=10,720年’。

Perhaps there was a substantial number of years of development prior to the 10,000 years of peace?
或许,在那「Peace/和平」的10,000年(到来)之前,还经历了很多年的发展?

My question is
我的问题是:

-What is the explanation for the above apparent gap of about 46,000 years?
-上述显而易见的大约46,000年的差距,该如何解释呢?

Regards and Best Wishes,
问候,以及最良好的祝愿,

Charles.
Charles

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Billy doesn’t know.
Billy(也)不清楚。

He said that it is not those old happenings of long ago that matter, but the teachings.
他说:重要的不是那些发生在很久以前的事情,而是(当下的)‘teachings/教导’。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

Perhaps he will ask the P’s sometime for an explanation.
也许,他会在(未来的)某个时间…向Plejaren寻求一个解释。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Dear Billy and FIGU,
亲爱的Billy还有FIGU,

I am helping someone compile an event timeline.
我正在帮助某人编译一个「Event Timeline/事件时间线」。

When was each of the four versions of Atlantis destroyed, please?
请问:「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」的四个‘versions/版块儿’(分别)是在什么时候…被摧毁的呢?

i.e. Greater Atlantis (Azores), Lesser Atlantis (Santorini), Troy (West Turkey) and North Africa (which city?).
也就是「Greater Atlantis/大亚特兰蒂斯」(「Azores/亚速尔群岛」)、「Lesser Atlantis/小亚特兰蒂斯」(「Santorini/圣托里尼」),「Troy/特洛伊」(「West Turkey/西土耳其」),以及「North Africa/北非」(哪个城市来着?)。

Many thanks,
非常感谢,

James Moore of Scotland
(来自)苏格兰的James Moore

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Billy doesn’t know.
Billy不清楚呢。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

The Ancient name for the Cherokee is Keetoowah.
「Cherokee/切诺基人」的古称是「Keetoowah/基图瓦」。

What we used to call ourselves before we were knows as Cherokee is Ani-yun-wi-ya (The Real People).
在我们被称为「Cherokee/切诺基人」之前,我们过去称呼自己为:‘Ani-yun-wi-ya’(‘The Real People/真正的人’)。

The land of Keetoowah was an ancient place we came from, but we have no idea where this place was located today.
「Keetoowah/基图瓦」领地是我们起源的一个古老地域,但今天,我们(却)不知道这个地域在哪里。

Our legends tell us we used to live on an island similar to the descriptions of Atlantis.
我们的传说告诉我们:我们曾经生活在一个…类似于「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」描述…的岛上。

Do you happen to know if that is where the Keetoowah people came from or where this ancient land of Keetoowah was actually located?
您是否有可能知道:「Keetoowah/基图瓦」的人民…来自哪里(?),又或者古老的「Keetoowah/基图瓦」领地…究竟在哪里?

Robearth69
Robearth69

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

No.
不知道。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Billy,
Billy,您好,

For many years, I have always been fascinated with the lost continent of Atlantis.
许多年来,我一直痴迷于…那失落的「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」大陆。

When I read the contact reports about you and Semjase taking about how Atlantis actually existed, I wanted to know more.
当我在「Contact Reports/接触报告」中,读到您和Semjase谈论关于…「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」是如何真实存在过…的事情的时候,我想要了解更多。

I would like to know as well as many people what Atlantis looked like.
和许多人一样,我也想要知道「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」究竟长什么样儿(?)。

I have some pictures of what people think Greater Atlantis may look like:
我(手上)有一些照片,这些照片展示了人们脑海中的…「Greater Atlantis/大亚特兰蒂斯」(大陆)…有可能的样子:

I wonder if you could show these pictures to Ptaah and Quetzel?
我想知道…您能否将这些照片拿给Ptaah和Quetzel看看呢?


Now my question:
现在我的问题是:

Billy, does these pictures show what Greater Atlantis really look like?
Billy,这些照片是否展示了「Greater Atlantis/大亚特兰蒂斯」(大陆)真实的样子呢?

Salome,
Salome,

MarBar
Marbar

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Probably yes.
很可能就是这个样子。

At least the biggest of the four parts of Atlantis existed in the Atlantic between Europe/Africa and America.
至少(组成)「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」的四部分中,最大的一块就存在于…介于「Europe/欧洲」(大陆)/「Africa/非洲」(大陆)和「America/美洲」(大陆)之间…的「Atlantic/大西洋」上。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Greetings Billy,
Billy,您好,

Was the document The Kybalion written by a person named Hermes Trismegistus as is attributed and or claimed ?
「The Kybalion/秘传哲理」这本书,如其被认为…又或主张的那样,是由一位名叫「Hermes Trismegistus/赫密士·特里斯梅吉斯托斯」的人撰写的吗?

Also was the person Hermes one of the historical personalities listed below ?
还有,这个名叫「Hermes Trismegistus/赫密士·特里斯梅吉斯托斯」的人,是否也是下列历史人物之一呢?

Plus i imagine at that date the location had to have been Atlantis ….. is that correct for at least the first two ?
另外,我还在想…在那个时代,(其所处的)位置一定就是(在)「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」吧…至少,前两世(的情况)是这样的吗?

Yes, the 13,500 years for the first Henoch is still accurate.
是的,对‘the first Henoch/Henoch一世’来说,13,500年(这个数字)仍然是准确的。

Henoch I was living about 11,500 years vor Jmmanuel
「Henoch I/Henoch一世」生活在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的11,500年前。

Henoch II was living 9308 years vor Jmmanuel
「Henoch II/Henoch二世」生活在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的9308年前。

Henoch III was living between 4-5,000 years vor Jmmanuel
「Henoch III/Henoch三世」生活在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的4,000至5,000年前之间。
-[注]

——该部分资讯来源于以下Q&A:

发布时间:2013年10月27日,周日,20:32
发布链接:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12930.html
提问链接:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12930.html
(Note: on the same page.)


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Dear Billy and Christian,
亲爱的Billy,还有Christian,

Is the time of Henoch I listed in FIGU Bulletin 50 (Klarstellung zu den Propheten Henok und Henoch) of 13,500 years ago still accurate, and if so, which of the following time reckonings for the procreation of Adam would you recommend we study:
在「FIGU Bulletin/FIGU公告」-050#(‘Klarstellung zu den Propheten Henok und Henoch/对先知Henok和Henoch的澄清’)中所列示的13,500年前的「Henoch I/Henoch一世」(所处)的时代,是否仍然准确呢(?),如果是的话,您会建议我们依循…以下哪一个「Adam/亚当」出世的时间推算…(展开)研究呢(?):

1). page 13 corrected Talmund Jmmanuel 2011 edition = 13,500 years ago (from 2011)
1)2011年修订版的「Talmund Jmmanuel」第13页 = 13,500年前(从2011年算起);

2). OM canon 31:560 which says the procreation of Adam was 1,700 years before the first birth of Henok on Earth (calculated from OM canon 31:43 as 9308 vor Jmmanuel) or 9308 + 1700 = 11,008 years vor Jmmanuel’s time or roughly 13,023 years ago (11,008 years vor Jmmanuel to the year 2013 = 13,023 years)
2)「OM Canon/真理之书」-31(节)/560(行)说到:「Adam/亚当」出世的时间,早于…「Henok」在「Earth/地球」上首次出生时间…的1,700年前 {从「OM Canon/真理之书」-31(节)/43(行)计算得来,即「Jmmanuel/以马内利」所处时代的9308年前},又或是「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代的)9308 + 1700 = 11,008年前;再或是粗略的13,023年前(「Jmmanuel/以马内利」所处时代的11,008年前…到2013年 = 13,023年);

3). The correction to ‘An Open Word’ as 13,035 years ago (1975) = 11,060 vor Jmmanuel or 13,075 years ago (2013)?
3)对‘「An Open Word/公开话」’的修正,即13,035年前(从1975年向前算起) = 「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的11,060年前,又或是13,075年前(从2013年向前算起)?

If Billy’s previous personality of Henoch I was living 13,500 years ago, how could the procreation of Adam by Billy’s previous personality of the ET Semjasa occur at the exact same time as noted in the corrected TJ?
如果Billy前世「Henoch I/Henoch一世」的人格…生活在(距今)13,500年前,那经由Billy前世「ET/外星人」-「Semjasa」的人格…造成的「Adam/亚当」的出世,又怎么可能…如同在修订版「Talmud Jmmanuel」中所注释的那般…发生在完全相同的时间呢?

#2 does not match up with #1, and is some 477 years short.
2#与1#无法对照,而且少了大概477年。

#3 is different from both #1 & #2 and 52 years more then #2 and 427 years short of #1.
3#不同于1#、也不同于2#,比2#多了52年,但比1#少了427年。

Help a researcher gain clarification like only you can ok?
能否请(您)帮我这个研学者…澄清一下呢,显然,只有您能做到这一点?

Salome
Salome

Corey
Corey

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Yes, the 13,500 years for the first Henoch is still accurate.
是的,对‘the first Henoch/Henoch一世’来说,13,500年(这个数字)仍然是准确的。

Henoch I was living about 11,500 years vor Jmmanuel
「Henoch I/Henoch一世」生活在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的11,500年前。

Henoch II was living 9308 years vor Jmmanuel
「Henoch II/Henoch二世」生活在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的9308年前。

Henoch III was living between 4-5,000 years vor Jmmanuel
「Henoch III/Henoch三世」生活在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」(所处时代)的4,000至5,000年前之间。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

Adam was procreated about 389,000 years ago.
「Adam/亚当」大约是在389,000年前…出生的。

Between OM 31:565 and 31:566 over 380,000 years have passed.
「OM/真理之书」31(节):565(行)到31(节):566(行)(表述到)…超过380,000年过去了。

OM 31:566 corresponds with TJ page 10, verse 11.
「OM/真理之书」31(节):566(行)对应于「Talmud Jmmanuel」第10页,第11节。

The OM and TJ show the correct numbers/dates.
「OM/真理之书」和「Talmud Jmmanuel」都展示了正确的数字/日期。

Thankyou, and …. best wishes.
谢谢您,还有…最良好的祝愿。

Cheers.
谢谢。

Ramirez
Ramirez

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

No.
不知道。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

See Edward_b’s answer further below.
查阅下方Edward_b的进一步回复。-[注]

——该部分资讯来源于以下Q&A:(Edward_b的跟进回复)

发布时间:2013年11月24日,周日,03:44
发布链接:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12954.html
提问链接:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/12953.html


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Ramirez,
Ramirez,

The Kybalion was written by ‘The Three Initiates’ which was a pseudonym for a man named William Walker Atkinson who was apart of the new thought movement of the early 1900s.
「The Kybalion/秘传哲理」是由‘「The Three Initiates/三创始」’撰写的,该名称是一个名叫「William Walker Atkinson/威廉·沃克·阿特金森」的男人的笔名,此人曾是二十世纪初期‘the new thought movement/新思想运动’的一分子。

He wrote some other works about the power of thoughts and such as well.
他还写了其它一些关于‘the power of thoughts/思想的力量’,以及诸如此类的作品。

Ive read a couple of his works, and my guess is that he had access to the so called ‘secret sciences.’
我读过他的几部作品,我的猜测是:他接触到了所谓的‘secret sciences/秘密科学’。

Edward_b
Edward_b

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Thanks.
谢谢。

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