FIGU Forum Q&A/FIGU论坛问答 – Vimanas

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资讯主题:拓展资讯 之 “Vimanas/维玛纳斯”

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内容中译:利昂小子
中译日期:2019年09月30日 – 2019年10月06日
校对日期:2019年10月07日,星期一
推送类型:中文域 – [拓展]
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本篇资讯取材自FIGU英文论坛,相关内容涉及一些关注者针对某一“事物”的互动讨论。
这里需要指出的是:相关内容并未出现在论坛-Q&A版块,也就是说,FIGU官方并未参与这些“事物”的讨论,亦未对相关议题作出任何官方形式的回复,因此,本次推送的中译本,严格来说并不属于FIGU资讯的范畴,亦不是一篇FIGU资讯,而是一篇拓展资讯。
之所以推送此类资讯,是因为在以往的研学过程中,我们深切感受到许多困扰英文世界的问题,同样也在困扰着中文世界,所以,在研学FIGU资讯的过程中,我们会阶段性地针对某些“有价值的案例”进行梳理和认知,并在做足“功课”后,向中心咨询相关案例的真相与事实。

利昂小子
2019/10/07

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the key of the future is in the past
(通往)未来的钥匙在过去。

can someone tell me about Alexandrian bibliothek,
有谁能告诉我关于‘Alexandrian bibliothek/亚历山大图书馆’的事情(?),

and Vimanas (flying sources) in the vedas book. in sanskrit language in ancient indien. and indo-europian migration, ???????
还有出现在‘vedas book/吠陀经’、古印度‘sanskrit language/梵语’,以及印欧移民口中的「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」(‘flying sources/飞碟’)吗?

thanks for any answer
感谢任何的回复。

Blerim
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who knows anything about the ancient gods (or vimanas in ancient india.
有谁知道古代‘gods/诸神’(或者古「India/印度」的「Vimanas/维曼纳斯」)吗(?)。

and about the indoeuropeans.
还有关于‘indoeuropeans/印欧人种’的事情吗(?)。

and mostly i am very glad to hear any information from someone about (hyperborea)borea continet.
其实,我最希望听到某人提供关于‘borea continet/北方大陆’(「Hyperborea/极北之地」)的任何信息。

Blerim
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Hello truth seekers,
真相探寻者们,你们好,

Just one more proof beamships are very ancient and real!
又一个(证明)「Beamships/光船」非常古老且真实(存在)的证据!

India, according to Dr.V. Raghavan, retired head of the Sanskrit department of India`s pretigious University of Madras, was alone in playing host to extraterrestrials in prehistory.
根据V.Raghavan博士(已退休的「India/印度」顶尖学府…‘Sanskrit department of University of Madras/马德里大学梵文系’前主任)所述,「India/印度」是史前时期唯一一个接待过「Extraterrestrials/外星人」的国家。

Dr. Raghavan contends that centuries-old documents in Sanskrit (the classical language of India and Hinduism) prove that aliens from outer space visited his nation.
Raghavan博士声称:数个世纪之前的「Sanskrit/梵语」古文献(「India/印度」和「Hinduism/印度教」的经典语言)证明,来自外层空间的外星人曾造访过他的国家。

‘Fifty years of researching this ancient works convinces me that there are livings beings on other planets, and that they visited earth as far back as 4,000 B.C.,’
‘五十年针对这些古文献的研究,使我坚信:其它星球上(也)有‘livings beings/生命形式’,而且他们早在公元前4,000年(的时候)…就已经造访过「Earth/地球」了,’

The scholar says.
这位学者如是说。

‘There is a just a mass of fascinating information about flying machines, even fantastic science fiction weapons, that can be found in translations of the Vedas (scriptures), Indian epics, and other ancient Sanskrit text.’
‘在「Vedas/吠陀经」(‘scriptures/经文’)的译文、‘Indian epics/印度史诗’,还有其它古代「Sanskrit/梵语」文献中,都可以找到大量关于…(‘flying machines/飞行器’,甚至是不可思议的梦幻科学武器)…的有趣信息。’

In the Mahabharata (writings), there is notion of divine lighting and ray weapons, even a kind of hypnotic weapon.
在「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」(‘writings/著作’)中,就提到了‘divine lighting/神圣之光’和‘ray weapons/射线武器’的概念,甚至还提到了一种‘hypnotic weapon/催眠武器’。

And in the Ramayana (writings), there is a description of Vimanas, or flying machines, that navigated at great heights with the aid of quicksilver and a great propulsive wind.
在「Ramayana/罗摩衍那」(‘writings/著作’)中,有一段针对「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」(又或是‘flying machines/飞行器’)的描述,说后者能够借助‘quicksilver/水银’…在极高空和巨大的劲风中航行。

‘These were space vehicles similar to the so-called flying saucers reported throughout the world today.
‘这些‘space vehicles/空间飞行器’类似于今天在全球范围内被报道的所谓‘flying saucers/飞碟’。

The Ramayana even describes a beautiful chariot which ‘arrived shining, a wonderful divine car that sped through the air’.
「Ramayana/罗摩衍那」甚至还描述了一架美丽的战车,这架战车‘在抵达时会发出闪闪的光,这是一辆美轮美奂的、飞驰在空中的神车’。

In another passage, there is mention of a chariot being seen ‘sailing overhead like a moon.’
在另一章节中,还提到一辆被人看到‘像「Moon/月亮」那般在头顶航行的战车。’

The references in the Mahabharata are no less astounding:
「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」中提到的(事情)同样令人感到震惊:

At Ramas behest, the magnificent chariot rose up to a mountain of cloud with a tremendous din.`
‘在‘Rama/罗摩’的命令下,这辆宏伟的战车伴随着巨大的轰鸣…冲上了云海的一处云霄。’

Another passage reads:
另一章节里说道:

`Bhima flew with his Vimana on an enormous ray which was as brilliant as the sun and made a noise like the thunder of a storm.’
‘「Bhima/比什玛」驾驶着他的「Vimana/维玛纳」在一道巨大的光线上飞行,这道光线像「Sun/太阳」那样光亮,并制造了一个像暴风雨雷鸣般的噪声。’

In the ancient Vymanka-Shastra (science of aeronautics), there is a description of a Vimana:
在古代「Vymanka-Shastra/维曼卡·沙斯特拉」(‘science of aeronautics/航空科学’)一书中,有一段针对「Vimana/维玛纳」的描述:

‘An apparatus which can go by its own force, from one place to place or globe to globe.’
‘(这是)一种能够凭借其自身力量,从一个地方到达另一个地方,又或是从一个世界到达另一个世界的装置。

Dr. Raghavan points out,
Raghavan博士指出,

The texts revelations become even more astounding. 'The texts revelations become even more astounding.
文献所揭露的事情…变得令人愈加(感到)震惊。

Thirty-one parts-of which the machine consists-are described, including a photographing mirror underneath.
组成机器的31个零部件都被描述到了,(其中)包括一个(位于)腹部的拍摄镜。

The text also enumerates 16 kinds of metal that are needed to construct the flying vehicle: Metals suitable, lighare 16 kinds.
文献还列举了建造(该)‘flying vehicle/飞行器’所需要的16种金属:‘16种适用轻金属。’

But only three of them are known to us today.
但至今我们只知道其中的三个。

The rest remain untranslatable.’
剩余的仍然无法被翻译出来。

Another authority who agrees with Dr. Raghavan`s interpretations is Dr. A.V. Krishna Murty, professor of aeronautics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore.
另一位同意Raghavan博士阐释的权威人士,是A.V. Krishna Murty博士,他是位于「Bangalore/班加罗尔」的「Indian Institute of Science/印度科学研究院」的航空学教授。

‘It is true,’
这是真的,

Dr. Krishna Murty says,
Krishna Murty博士说道:

‘that the ancient Indian Vedas and other text refer to aeronautics, spaceships, flying machines, ancient astronauts. ‘
‘ancient Indian/古印度’的「Vedas/吠陀经」和其它文献…确实提到了「Aeronautics/航空学」、‘spaceships/宇宙飞船’、‘flying machines/飞行器’、‘ancient astronauts/古代宇航员’。


A study of the Sanskrit texts has convinced me that ancient India did know the secret of building flying machines-and that those machines were patterned after spaceships coming from other planets.’
一项针对「Sanskrit/梵语」文献的研究使我相信:古代「India/印度」确实(已经)掌握了建造‘flying machines/飞行器’的秘密,而且,这些机器是在…来自其它星球的‘spaceships/宇宙飞船’来到(「Earth/地球」)…之后,才被制造出来的。

got this ‘jewel’ at the following site
登录下方网址…以获取该‘(资讯)宝藏’:

http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Vimanas.htm

Barreto
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Hi All,
大家好,

The information I quoted below is from a segment in a site which Speaks of ancient earth India region, here below is a small phrase which speaks about the Germans strong interest in Ancient Indian information, read below and then go to the link to read the rest, excellent information for those who would like to know about the Ancient Sanskrit writtings and Technologies which have existed:
以下我所引述的信息,来自一个讲述…‘ancient earth India region/古代地球印度区域’…的网站的一段(摘录),以下一小段内容,讲述了「Germans/德国人」对‘Ancient Indian/古印度’信息的强烈兴趣,(请)阅读下文,然后登录下方网址以阅读余下的部分,对那些想要了解…古代‘Sanskrit writtings/梵文著作’和古代已有技术…的人来说,这将是非常棒的信息:

The Nazis developed the first practical pulse- jet engines for their V-8 rocket ‘buzz bombs.’
「Nazi/纳粹」为他们的V-8型火箭‘buzz bombs/嗡弹’研发了第一款实用型喷流-喷气引擎。

Hitler and the Nazi staff were exceptionally interested in ancient India and Tibet and sent expeditions to both these places yearly, starting in the 30’s, in order to gather esoteric evidence that they did so, and perhaps it was from these people that the Nazis gained some of their scientific information!
「Adolf Hitler/阿道夫·希特勒」和「Nazi/纳粹」的工作人员对古「India/印度」和「Tibet/西藏」特别感兴趣,从(上世纪)30年代开始,每年都会向这些地方派遣探险队,以便搜集后者(能够)做到这些的深奥证据,也许正是从这些人口中,「Nazis/纳粹」获得了一些他们(想要)的科学信息!

According to the Dronaparva, part of the Mahabarata, and the Ramayana, one Vimana described was shaped like a sphere and born along at great speed on a mighty wind generated by mercury.
根据「Dronaparva/德罗娜·帕尔瓦」,「Mahabarata/摩诃婆罗多」的一部分,还有「Ramayana/罗摩衍那」的所述,一艘「Vimana/维玛纳」被描述得像是一个球体,并(能够)在由「Mercury/汞」产生的强气流上…以极快的速度出现。

It moved like a UFO, going up, down, backwards and forwards as the pilot desired.
它(能够)像「UFO/不明飞行物」那样移动,就像(所有)飞行员所希望的那样…直上、直下、(径直)后退和(径直)前进。

In another Indian source, the Samar, Vimanas were ‘iron machines, well-knit and smooth, with a charge of mercury that shot out of the back in the form of a roaring flame.’
在另一个印度资讯源中,「Samar/萨马尔」,「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」被描述成‘钢铁机器,结实又光滑,借助「Mercury/汞」的充能,以一种咆哮火焰的形式…从后方喷射出(喷射流)。’

http://www.crystalinks.com/indiavimanas.html

good site to Bookmark
很值得收藏的网站。

BE WELL All
(愿)一切都好!

JAY
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I have done much study in the past of as many Philosophies and Religions and soon on, and even from India, and it seems when I would mention Extraterrestrial Beings to such student(s)..they would just Turn Away.
我过去…对许多「Philosophies/哲学」和「Religions/宗教」等(课题)做了非常多的研究,(有些课题)甚至(就是)源于「India/印度」(的),但每当我想要和学生(们)提及‘Extraterrestrial Beings/外星生命’的时候,他们似乎总是会‘Turn Away/转身离开’。

They, just as all other Religions still seem to accept Spirit Beings as still descending to Earth on a ‘Cloud’, and thus, Not a Space Craft, of any kind.
他们,就像所有其他‘Religions/宗教人士’那样,仍然认为‘Spirit Beings/灵魂’是从某个‘Cloud/云端’降临到「Earth/地球」上来的,而不是(来自)什么‘Space Craft/宇宙飞船’。

But if One would do more study in the ancient history of India, One would Surely Encounter Images of V like Air Crafts, and even Winged.
但如果‘One/一个人’愿意对「India/印度」的古代历史多做一些研究的话,那‘One/这个人’就‘Surely Encounter/一定会碰到’-‘ Images of V like Air Crafts/V形飞行器的图像’,(有些)甚至是‘Winged/带翅膀’的。

The ‘Vimanas’, I think they are called.
‘「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」’,我想它们是被这么被称呼的。

It has also been recorded that these Vimanas executed WARS in the in sky; fighting each other in front of the peoples..in those times.
也有记载(提到):在那些时代里,这些「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」在天空中执行了「WARS/战争」,并在人民面前互相打斗。


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Thanks David
谢谢,David,

Does anyone know about the Devas and Danavas, and what they are, and maybe shed some light on the whole issue of the 3 floating, or should I say orbiting castles around the earth, and what those things really were.
有没有人知道‘Devas/天神’和‘Danavas/达纳瓦斯’,他们是什么人,也许(这)能对整个‘3 floating/3号漂浮物’的议题有所启示,或者(对此)我应该说…是围绕「Earth/地球」的‘orbiting castles/轨道城堡’,还有…那些东西究竟是什么(?)。

The wars described in the Mahabhrata (of which the Bhagavad Gita is just a small part of) are truly amazing, but I’m interested in the idea that there were the devas and danavas who fought each other in the sky with their vimanas, as well as blue skinned people who telepathically communicated with Arjuna (the main character in the story).
在「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」(其中…「Bhagavad Gita/薄伽梵歌」只是前者的一小部分)中…所描述的战争真的很神奇,但(更)让我感兴趣的是,其中…{存在过借助其「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」在天空中相互打斗的‘Devas/天神’和‘Danavas/达纳瓦斯’,以及透过心灵感应与「Arjuna/阿诸纳」(故事中的主要角色)沟通的蓝皮肤人类}…的构想。

Of course the devas and danavas are older then the Mahabhrata, because it is a story that retells a story from the past.
当然,‘Devas/天神’和‘Danavas/达纳瓦斯’要比「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」更为古老,因为后者(即:「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」)是一个…重述过往故事…的故事。

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Yes, Psycloud as you say the Mahabharata was not fought amongst devas (gods).
是的,Psycloud,正如你所说的,「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」(讲述的)并非是‘devas/天神’(‘gods/诸神’)之间的打斗。

Danavas are a dynasty in Assam, which is a state in the East of India.
‘Danavas/达纳瓦斯’是「Assam/阿萨姆邦」的一个朝代,后者(即:「Assam/阿萨姆邦」)是「India/印度」东部的一个邦。

They are a very old dynasty with their kings being mythical, this story is another thing, but in the Mahabharata they are mentioned to fight.
这是一个非常古老的王朝,历任国王都充满了神秘色彩,(当然)这个故事是另外一件事了,但在「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」中,他们确实提到了打仗。

The Danavas along with many other tribes like Cinas (Chinese), Kambojas (people who lived in current day Afghanisthan, but not anymore), Yavana (Greeks), Shakas, Phalavas, Andhra and many more are described as barbaric tribes who live the lives of Dasyus.
‘Danavas/达纳瓦斯’联合了许多其他部落,像是‘Cinas/中国(先民)’(「Chinese/中国人」)、‘Kambojas/康卜加斯(先民)’(曾经生活在…如今「Afghanisthan/阿富汗」…土地上的人,但已不复存在)、‘Yavana/耶婆那(先民)’(「Greeks/希腊人」)、‘Shakas/沙卡斯(先民)’、‘Phalavas/马拉瓦斯(先民)’、‘Andhra/安得拉(先民)’,以及更多被描述为‘barbaric tribes/野蛮部落’的…生活在「Dasyus/达西尤斯」居住地的先民。

Now about Mahabharta, the battle was fought between cousins, the Pandavas and the Kauravas.
现在,关于「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」,战斗是在表亲‘Pandavas/潘达维斯’和‘Kauravas/考拉瓦斯’之间打响的。

They are of the Kuru clan.
他们都属于‘Kuru/库鲁’氏族。

And they fought in Kurukshetra (Kuru + kshetra (field) = (Battle) field of the Kurus).
他们在‘Kurukshetra/库鲁克谢特拉’ {‘Kuru/库鲁’ + ‘kshetra/克谢特拉’(‘field/地域’)= ‘Kurus/库鲁斯人’的(‘Battle/战’)场} 开战。

The Pandavas are 5 in number and are sons of devas, the Kauravas are 100 in number and are the sons of men, many illustrious warriors are there also in the Kauravas side like Bhishma (a.k.a Bhishmapita, or father Bhishma),the grandsire of the clan.
‘Pandavas/潘达维斯’一方有5个人,他们都是‘devas/天神’的儿子,‘Kauravas/考拉瓦斯’一方有100个人,他们都是‘men/人类’的儿子,在‘Kauravas/考拉瓦斯’一方还有许多杰出的勇士,像是「Bhishma/比什马」(又名:‘Bhishmapita’,又或是‘father Bhishma/比什马之父’),他是氏族的先祖。

The Mahabharata was composed by Veda Vyasa, who was present in the story, he doesn’t fight in the war.
「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」是由故事中的「Veda Vyasa/韦达·维亚萨」撰写的,他并没有在战争中参与打斗。

It consists of 74,000 verses (abt. 7 times the current bible) and out of these 700 are the Bhagvad Gita.
它(即:「Mahabhrata/摩诃婆罗多」)由74,000个节(大约是现代「Bible/圣经」的7倍)组成,其中有700节是(叙述)「Bhagavad Gita/薄伽梵歌」的。

I would guess that devas are beings from other worlds and fought in Vimanans actually there is a rare text, I don’t recall the name, but it does exist.
我会猜想‘devas/天神’是来自其它世界的生命,他们在「Vimanans/维玛纳斯」里作战,实际上,有一段稀有的文述,我记不清名字了,但它确实存在。

It speaks of the nature of wars in the previous eras and mentions Vimanas, of different types.
它讲述了发生在之前时代里的战争的本质,并提到了不同类型的「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」。

Also their abilities like becoming invisible, detecing an invisible ship, firing missiles (in skt. known as Astra).
(该段文述)还记录了它们(即:「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」)所具备的功能,像是隐身、探测隐身飞船、发射导弹(在skt中,被称为‘Astra/阿斯特拉’)。

And, I would think even that technology was somehow in N.
而且,我甚至会认为:当时的技术要比现在高出N多倍。

India, as many a times Arjuna shoots many arrows so as to cover the Sun, surely thats something like a super-gun.
在「India/印度」,「Arjuna/阿诸纳」射出的许多箭(甚至)无数次遮挡住了「Sun/太阳」,显然,那是一种‘super-gun/超级武器’。

Concernign Arjuna’s contact with blue skinned people, are you speaking of his contact with Krishna?
至于「Arjuna/阿诸纳」与蓝皮肤人类的接触,你是在说他与「Krishna/克利须那神」的接触吗?

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亲爱的主持人同志,

This Post is not very relevant to the Issue at Hand, but it is quite important to me.
这篇帖文与眼前的议题不太相关,但它对我来说却很重要。

I would appreciate if you post it, but i would understand if you decide not to.
如果您能发布它…我将不胜感激,但是,如果您决定不这么做的话…我也能理解。

Now then.]
那么,现在。


Liebe Kameraden,
亲爱的同志们,

In my Post 122(Nov. 01-2008) i wrote:
在我的第122篇帖文(2008年11月01日)中,我写到:

…when i came across a french Book called ‘Les Documents Secrets'(‘The secret documents’ in English, a Compilation of Testimonies of ‘ET’ Encounters, including the Experience of President Kennedy).; the Point is that i am now convinced , the abovementioned Book is rather called Les Dossiers secrets(Secret Files).
…当时我碰巧遇到了一本叫做‘Les Documents Secrets/秘密文献’(「English/英语」译为‘The secret documents/秘密文献’)的‘french Book/法语书’,这是一部(关于)‘ET Encounters/外星人邂逅(案例)’的证词汇编,其中包括「President Kennedy/肯尼迪总统」的经历);
重点是,我现在确信,前边提到的这本书,更准确地说,(应该)叫做「Les Dossiers secrets/秘密档案」(「Secret Files/秘密档案」)。

This unfortunate Mistake is due to the Fact that i had that Book some 22 Years ago and i have since then read and wrote about so many others Books – and, besides, i am using the last Time, except on this Forum and eventually at Project Avalon, mostly Dutch, Russian and German, in which the english Word ‘File’ is commonly rendered with the Word ‘Document’.
这一不幸的错误源于这样一个事实:我大概在22年前得到了这本书,在那以后,我阅读并写下了许多其它书籍——而且,除此之外,我正最后一次使用它(即:使用‘Document/文献’来表述‘File/档案’),除了在这个「Forum/论坛」上,最终还有在「Project Avalon/Avalon项目」上,(内容)大部分是「Dutch/荷兰语」、「Russian/俄语」还有「German/德语」的,其中,英文单词‘File/档案’经常使用单词‘Document/文献’做表述。

Mea Culpa.
这是我的错。

Another Book, which i still have, i should rightly make Mention of – besten Dank Bruder im Geist, J_rod7, for your indirect Hint and subtile Guidance – for the tremendous Role it played on my Path towards Herr Meier and the Mission, is also a french Book, called Le Livre des Maîtres du Monde(literally, ‘The Book of the Masters of the World’) by Monsieur Robert Charroux( 1967, Robert Laffont Publishing House, 352 Pages; 6 Place Saint Sulpice, Paris, 6e(Roman 6, in sixth)).
我(至今)仍持有的另一本书,对这本书…我应该要正确地提及——(并)感谢(我)精神上的兄弟,J‧RoD7,感谢你的间接提示和细微指导——这些提示和指导…在我趋向Meier先生和「Mission/使命」的道路上,发挥了巨大的作用,这同样是一本‘french Book/法语书’,叫做「Le Livre des Maîtres du Monde/世界大师之书」(字面意思是,‘The Book of the Masters of the World/世界大师之书’),作者是令人尊敬的Robert Charroux先生 {1967年出版,「Robert Laffont Publishing House/罗伯特‧拉丰出版社」,352页;「Paris/巴黎」-「6 Place Saint Sulpice/圣叙尔皮斯第六广场」-6排/号(罗马数字6,第六)}。

It is an extensive Study of Earth History, up to 12.000 Years back in Time, and the decisive Importance of extraterrestrial Interventions along the Way, with Reference to Sources and Documents, like the Book of Enoch, Sanchoniathon, Moses, Eusebius, Porphyrius and the Phenician Theology; Thot and Egypt, Venus of Astarte; the Persians and their Avesta, Zoroastre, Ahura-Mazda, Venus of Astarte, Azazel, the Great Flood and Genetics; the Mayans and Incas; Moses and the Elohims; the Pyramids of America and China; Buddha, the Vedas of the Hindus, India and the ‘Vimanas’ of the Gods; islamic and Soviet Sources; the mexican Popol Vuh, the celtic Bardas, the japanese Kojiki; Hyperborea, the Land of Mû and Atlantis; Time Travel; the Codex Magliabecchiano, the Codex Perez, the Codex of Dresde, the Codex Cortesianus; Mr Henry Schliemann, among many Others…
这是一部宏大的‘Study of Earth History/地球历史研究(著作)’,时间可以追溯到12,000年前,以及这一路走来…「Extraterrestrial/外星人」(在其中)‘Interventions/干预’的决定性重要(作用),连同参考来源和文献,这就像是一部囊括了…

…{「Enoch/伊诺」,「Sanchoniathon/桑楚尼亚松」,「Moses/摩西」,「Eusebius/尤西比乌斯」,「Porphyrius/波菲利」和「Phenician Theology/腓尼基神学」;「Thot/托特」和「Egypt/埃及」,「Astarte/阿斯塔特」的「Venus/维纳斯」;「Persians/波斯人」和他们的「Avesta/阿维斯塔」,「Zoroastre/所罗亚斯德」,「Ahura-Mazda/阿胡拉‧马自达」,「Astarte/阿斯塔特」的「Venus/维纳斯」,「Great Flood/大洪水」和「Genetics/遗传学」;「Mayans/玛雅人」和「Incas/印加人」;「Moses/摩西」和「Elohims/爱洛希姆斯」;「America/美国」和「China/中国」的「Pyramids/金字塔」;「Buddha/佛陀」,「India/印度」以及「Hindus/印度教」的「Vedas/吠陀」,还有‘Gods/诸神’的「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」;「Islamic/伊斯兰」和「Soviet/苏维埃」的‘Sources/来源’;「Mexican/墨西哥人」-「Popol Vuh/波波尔·乌」,「Celtic/凯尔特人」-「Bardas/巴达斯」,「Japanese/日本人」-「Kojiki/酷杰基」;「Hyperborea/极北之地」,「Mu/穆」和「Atlantis/亚特兰蒂斯」的领地;「Time Travel/时间旅行」;「Codex Magliabecchiano/马格利亚贝奇亚诺法典」,「Codex Perez/佩雷斯法」典,「Codex of Dresde/德雷斯德法典」,「Codex Cortesianus/科尔特西亚努斯法典」;「Henry Schliemann/亨利·施利曼」先生,还有许多其他人}…

…的‘Book/巨著’一样。

There is no Mention of Herr Mission and the Plejarens, though – maybe because at the Time(1967), Herr Meier’s Mission is yet to be up and running.
(但这本书)没有提到Meier先生的「Mission/使命」和Plejarens,也许,这有可能是因为当时(1967年),Meier先生的「Mission/使命」还未开启并执行(的缘故)。

Und zum Schluß, i would like to say that i ‘borrowed’ that Book; that is, that i borrowed it but never brought it back, as i should have done – it was in August 2002, in a small Library held by a Church, in a little Town in French Switzerland, where i stayed for a while.
最后,我想说的是:我‘borrowed/借’了那本书,也就是说,我借走了它,但并没有像我应该去做的那样…把它还回去——那是在2002年的08月,在一间由教堂筹办的小型图书馆,位于「Switzerland/瑞士」一个说「French/法语」的小镇上,我在那儿住了一段时间。

I liked the Book a lot and i was leaving before finishing it; this is however no Justification whatsoever and i know that.
我非常喜欢这本书,(但)在我读完(这本书)之前我就要离开了;然而,我知道这无论如何都不是正当的理由。

I therefore sincerely apologize to you, Kameraden, and to all People of good Will.
因此,我真诚地向你们,同志们,还有所有心怀善念的人们道歉。

I shall look for the Address of that Library and, as soon as possible, return that Book per Post with my heartful Apologies.
我会寻找那家图书馆的地址,并尽快将那本书还回去,每一个字都包含了我由衷的歉意。

Salome.
Salome.

Adam.
Adam.


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Hi Hunter
嗨,Hunter,

The majority of the information is from Billy’s book, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums …Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren (From The Depths of Space…Contact With The Plejaren).
大部分的信息都来自Billy的著作,「Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums…Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren/来自太空深处…与Plejaren的接触」(「From The Depths of Space…Contact With The Plejaren/来自太空深处…与Plejaren的接触」)。

The format of the book is a bit similar to the format of Guido Moosburger’s book, And Still They Fly.
这部著作的风格有些类似于Guido Moosburger的著作,「And Still They Fly/它们还在飞」。

In fact, Guido covers some of the same material.
事实上,Guido(的著作)覆盖了一些相同的素材。

However, in Aus den Leben…, Billy goes into much more detail in certain topics such as Plejaren life on Erra, how hyperspace leaps occur, galactic history, etc.
然而,在‘Aus den Leben…/从生活中…’一书中,Billy针对某些话题…提供了更多的细节,比如Plejaren在「Erra(星球)」上的生活,‘hyperspace leaps/超空间跳跃’是如何发生的,‘galactic history/银河系的历史’等等。

Billy does not mention the blue skinned specifically in the book.
(然而)Billy并没有在书中特别提及蓝皮肤的(人类)。

But he does say that the Lyraner/Veganer who did come to earth were a mixture of various skin colours and sizes.
但他确实有说道:曾经到访「Earth/地球」的「Lyraner/天琴人」/「Veganer/织女星人」,是由各种肤色和(体型)大小的(人类)组成的。

Also, in Aus den Tiefen… and in the OM, a nuclear war is described, the result of Lyraner power struggles, which may be the same nuclear war described in Mahabharata where the blue-skinned are generously described.
此外,在‘Aus den Tiefen…/来自深处…’和「OM/真理之书」中,描述了一场由「Lyraner/天琴人」-‘power struggles/权力斗争’所引发的‘nuclear war/核战’,这场‘nuclear war/核战’有可能与「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」中描述的那场‘nuclear war/核战’是同一场,其中后者(即:「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」)广泛描述了蓝皮肤的(人类)。

In the Indian epic, Krishna, appears as a major character overseeing the great battle and is described as a blue-skinned warrior-god.
在印度史诗中,「Krishna/克利须那神」,表现为了一个‘overseeing/监察’那场‘great battle/大战’的主角儿,并被描述成一位蓝皮肤的‘warrior-god/战神’。

Sudeshna speaks of Draupadi’s beauty, ‘Your dark blue skin sets off your black eyes like the setting of a jewel.’
「Sudeshna/苏德什纳」在谈及「Draupadi/德拉乌帕迪」的美貌时,(说道:)‘在您深蓝色皮肤的衬托下,您黑色的眼睛就像是镶嵌在其上的珠宝一样。’

The blue-skinned Vishnu, rides Garuda, the sacred bird.
蓝皮肤的「Vishnu/毗湿奴神」,骑着「Garuda/迦卢荼」(注:金翅鸟,印度神话中毗湿奴大神所骑的鸟),‘the sacred bird/那神圣之鸟’。

And then there’s the epic battle sequences which describe high technological weapons, ‘Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana (fast aircraft) hurled a single projectile (rocket) charged with the power of the Universe (nuclear device).
然后,是一连串令人印象深刻的战斗镜头,描述了高科技武器,‘「Gurkha/古尔卡」,驾驶着一架迅捷且强大的「Vimana/维玛纳」(‘fast aircraft/快速飞行器’)飞行,投掷了一枚…{由「Universe/宇宙」力量(‘nuclear device/核设备’)为其充能的}…‘projectile/抛射体’(‘rocket/火箭’)。

An incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor.’
(伴随)一道白炽的‘column of smoke and flame/烟火柱’(注:类似蘑菇云),明亮犹如一万个「Suns/太阳」那般,(瞬间)绽放出它所有的辉煌。’

And Shiva, the destroyer, gained prominence by destroying the city of demons which rotated in the air.
还有「Shiva/湿婆神」,那‘destroyer/破坏者’,通过摧毁盘旋在空中的‘the city of demons/恶魔之城’,获得了显赫的地位。

In one version, he pierced all three cities with one arrow (laser).
在(另)一个版本中,他(即:「Shiva/湿婆神」)用一只‘arrow/箭’(‘laser/某种激光武器’)就击穿了全部三座城市。

Quite possibly it is the same long conflict in which the cities we know today as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by nuclear explosions and which were inhabited by the old Lyraner.
这很可能是同一场长期冲突,其中,我们今天所知的像是「Sodom/索多玛」和「Gomorrah/蛾摩拉」的城市…被‘nuclear explosions/核爆’摧毁,而那些城市正是老「Lyraner/天琴人」居住的地方。

Such a conflict may have been the impetus of why the blue race began to live underground in the first place.
这样的一场冲突,也有可能是‘blue race/蓝色种族’(即:蓝皮肤的人类)最初(选择)开始在地下生活的‘impetus/动力(起因/缘由)’。

Finally, we come back to one of Billy’s statements from Contact 251, where he says that all humans on Earth originated from the same, single Ur-stock.
最后,我们回到Billy在第251次接触(报告)中提到的一个说法,他说:「Earth/地球」上所有的人类都起源于同一个单一的‘Ur-stock/源(人)种’。

The single Ur stock was created by Henok and branched into two main groups, the Sirians and the Lyraner/Veganer, which is where my galactic history summary first began.
该单一的‘Ur stock/源(人)种’是由「Henok/伊诺」创造的,并分成了两个主要群体,「Sirians/天狼星人」…以及「Lyraner/天琴人」/「Veganer/织女星人」,这就是我的‘galactic history summary/银河系历史总结’…最先开始的地方。


Contact 251:
接触(报告)-251#:

  • 接触时间:1995年02月03日,星期五,00:01
  • 接触地点:Semjase银星中心(「SSSC」),瑞士
  • 联邦使者:Ptaah

Billy:
Billy:

In my 23 pages, I forgot to mention also that the terrestrial beings were actually one single race during Henok’s ancient times.
在我的23页纸中,我还忘记提到:‘terrestrial beings/地球生命’在「Henok/伊诺」所处的远古时代,其实是一个单一(人类)种族。

From this one race other races formed due to climatic and atmospheric changes, and splits and created new breeds once again.
从这个单一(人类)种族中,其他(人类)种族…经由(其各自所处的行星)气候和大气变化…而形成,并再次分裂并创生出新的人种。

Over the course of time, not only did the skin color of humans change but also their outward appearance, yet always in tune with the new surroundings, new living conditions and other influences.
伴随时间的推移,人类不仅肤色发生了变化,他们的外表也发生了变化,(而且)也总是与新的(生存)环境、新的居住条件以及其它(外部)影响…相协调/相适应。

This, of course, resulted in genetic changes in addition to those changes produced by the genetic manipulations.
这当然造成了基因的改变(即:自然的改变),另外,还有那些通过‘genetic manipulations/基因操弄’制造的基因改变(即:人为的改变)。

However, the changes were not significant enough for the original and basic link not to remain evident that all humans on Earth originated from the same, single Ur-stock.
然而,这些改变对‘the original and basic link/原始和基本性状的联系’-[注] 来说…并不足够明显,以至于无法提供…{「Earth/地球」上所有的人类并非起源于同一个单一‘Ur-stock/源(人)种’}…的证据。

利昂注释:

这里的意思是,新人种所表现出来的性状与源人种之间…存在的联系/纽带。

Hence, when the humans from the Lyra regions and other locations interbred with the early emigrants, respectively their descendants nearly 190,000 years ago on Earth, the cycle was complete among people of the same stock.
因此,当来自「Lyra/天琴座」区域和其它地域的人类…与早期移民相融合时,他们各自的后代在距今约190,000年前出现了在「Earth/地球」上,至此,整件事在…拥有相同‘stock/源(人)种’的人类…中完成。

And then, when the peoples separated again in large spurts, and the most diverse regions of the Earth were newly inhabited, further changes in skin color, outward appearance and genes transpired again.
之后,当人类在‘in large spurts/重大事件中’再次分离,并开始在「Earth/地球」上最多样化的区域定居时,肤色、外表和基因的进一步变化…再次发生了。

This time, too, the Ur-breed remained intact, and it can be genetically proven that the terrestrials originated from a single Ur-race.
这一次,同样的,‘Ur-breed/源人种’(的性状)保持完好,且这可以经由遗传学证明:‘terrestrials/地球人’起源于一个单一的‘Ur-race/源(人类)种族’。

Regards
祝好!

Bob
Bob


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Ancient History = For those unaware of History, current events will take them by surprise.
远古历史 = 对那些不了解历史的人来说,‘current events/时事’会让他们大吃一惊。

History DOES Repeat itself. =
历史确实在重演。=

In one of the two major Sanskrit epics of ancient India called the Mahabharata, there is a passage, which many Indian scholars believe to have been written 24,000 years ago, that tells a story about…
在古「India/印度」两大「Sanskrit/梵语」史诗之一的「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」中,有一个章节,许多印度学者都认为其写于24,000年前,该章节讲述了这样一个故事…

Gurkha, who while flying a swift and powerful vimana hurled a single projectile charged with the power of the Universe from which an incandescent column of smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with all its splendor.
「Gurkha/古尔卡」,当时正驾驶着一架迅捷且强大的「Vimana/维玛纳」飞行,投掷了一枚…由「Universe/宇宙」的力量为其充能的…‘projectile/抛射体’,从中,一道白炽的‘column of smoke and flame/烟火柱’(注:类似蘑菇云)(出现),明亮犹如一万个「Suns/太阳」那般,(瞬间)绽放出它所有的辉煌。


It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
这是一种未知的武器,一种钢铁的霹雳,一个庞大的死亡信使,它使「Vrishnis/维希尼斯人」和「Andhakas/安达卡斯人」的整个种族…化成了灰烬。

The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable.
尸体被烧得如此严重…以至于无法辨认。

Hair and nails fell out;
头发和指甲脱落;

Pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white….
陶器毫无征兆地破碎,鸟儿也变成了白色…

After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected……to escape from this fire the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment.
几个小时之后,所有的食物都被感染了…为了逃避这场大火,士兵们纷纷跳进溪流…洗刷自己和他们的装备。

—— Source..: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/indexplanetsofgod.html

This also reads like the description of the people under the FireStorm of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
这读起来,就像是对…身处「Hiroshima/广岛」和「Nagasaki/长崎」-‘FireStorm/火风爆’之下的人们…的描述。

And those Nuclear Suns were just little ones, compared with the MEGATON warheads of today.
且那些‘Nuclear Suns/核太阳’,与今天的‘MEGATON/百万吨级’-‘warheads/核弹头’相比,还只是小家伙儿。

愿和平临于地球,普降环球众生灵。
Salome Gam Naan Ben Uurda, Gan Njjber Asaala Hesporoona

Rod
Rod


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Dear Suv,
亲爱的Suv,

Excellent post and points!
很棒的帖子和观点!

Indeed, 25 out of 100 for ‘closest’ is very charitable, in my view. 🙂
确实,在我看来,就‘closest/最接近’(这个关键词)来说,100分(最多)拿到25分(这个观点)…是非常厚道的。:)

Perhaps I should have written ‘least distant’ or some such, but – given the drubbing Billy gives to religion on this forum (through my translated quotes) – I expected folks here to know that ‘closest’ would still have to be FAAAAAR from reality, since we know that the Bafath have steered ALL the religions, even the ones not primarily known for harbouring the Untouchable Paedophile Elite.
也许,我应该写‘least distant/最不遥远’或此类的话,但是,考虑到Billy在这个「Forum/论坛」上给予宗教的痛击(通过我的翻译引述)-我希望这里的各位明白:‘closest/最接近’仍然与现实相距遥远,因为我们知道…「Bafath」已经操控了‘ALL/所有’的宗教,甚至是那些…(最初并不是由于…包庇‘Untouchable Paedophile Elite/不可触碰的恋童癖精英’…而被世人所知)…的宗教。

Regarding the ET ‘gods’ who, like the vermin they largely were, infested our beleaguered planet in pre- and early history:
至于「ET/外星人」-‘gods/诸神’,他们多半像害虫一样,在之前和早期的历史中,侵扰了我们深陷困境的星球:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/gaiaguys/GodsHuman.html

Thanks again, Suv, for the interesting historical facts.
再次感谢你,Suv,为了(你提供的那些)有趣的历史事实。

The Sanskrit texts have a lot of ET-related items like vimanas, thermonuclear warfare, etc.
「Sanskrit/梵语」文献中包含了大量‘ET-related/与外星人相关’的术语,像是「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」、‘thermonuclear warfare/热核战争’等等。

It’s my understanding that a lot of it remains untranslated from the original language, but – given what Billy has provided us – anyone making the effort to learn Sanskrit would be better advised to learn German first.
我(对此)的理解是:其中仍有大量内容…无法从‘original language/源语言’中翻译出来,但是,鉴于Billy教导我们的,任何致力于学习「Sanskrit/梵语」的人,都会被建议…最好是先学习「German/德语」。

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana

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Are they Beings in tau ceti?
他们是「Tau Ceti/鲸鱼座T星」的‘Beings/生命(形式)’吗?

Tau Cetians.
「Tau Cetians/鲸鱼座T星人」(?)。

Is the vimana sanskrit describs how a beamship works?
「Sanskrit/梵语」所描述的「Vimana/维玛纳」…有没有提到「Beamship/光船」是如何工作的?

Please tell what really are theses anunnakis the sumerian talks about in the stories?
请告诉我这些…「Sumerian/苏美尔人」在故事中谈论到的…「Aanunnakis/阿努那奇人」,究竟是什么人?

Are thy ancient astronuats?
他们是‘ancient astronuats?/古代宇航员’吗?

but from where?
但(他们)来自哪里呢?

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Hi Michael,
嗨,Michael,

I hope the ‘magpies’ did not steal too much of your / Billy’s belongings ):
我希望‘magpies/喜鹊们’没有偷走你/Billy太多的东西):

Pun aside – the ‘magpie bridge’ in the legend may well stand for the transportation of the yellow races to our planet from across the galaxy.
抛开Pun不谈——传说中的‘magpie bridge/鹊桥’很有可能代表了…从银河系另一边来到我们星球的…‘yellow races/黄色种族’的‘transportation/运输(途径/方式/形式/工具)’。

Many ancient myths and legends often used birds or birdlike features to express flying machines:
许多古代神话和传说…经常用鸟类或‘birdlike features/类鸟特征的事物’…来表述‘flying machines/飞行器’:

E.g. many paintings picture the ‘holy spirit’ (Gabriel’s spaceship above) as a dove (e.g. in paintings of John baptizing Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel’s ascension etc.)
例如: 许多画作都将‘holy spirit/圣灵’(「Gabriel/加百利」在其上的宇宙飞船)描绘成一只鸽子(例如:在‘John baptizing Jmmanuel/约翰为耶稣洗礼’,以及‘Jmmanuel’s ascension/耶稣升天’等画作中)。

The angels – esp. in Christianity (e.g. the one telling Maria she will have a child or the ones sitting in front of Jmmanuel’s grave) – have wings like birds.
天使们,尤其是在「Christianity/基督教」里(例如:告诉「Maria/玛丽亚」她将怀上一个孩子的天使;又或是坐在「Jmmanuel/以马内利」坟墓前的天使们)…都有像鸟类一样的翅膀。

Artists ‘then’ used birdlike features because in their imagination ‘people that knew how to fly’ must have been ‘birdlike’.
艺术家们‘then/然后就’使用‘birdlike features/类鸟特征的事物’(来描绘天使的形象),因为在他们的想象中…‘people that knew how to fly/知道如何飞行的人’一定是‘birdlike/像鸟一样的’。

Salome,
Salome,

Bill
Tat_tvam_asi/ Bill


NB
注意:

Only the ancient Indians were more to the point in their descriptions of the flying objects (‘Vimanas’) they witnessed:
只有古「Indians/印度人」在描述他们目击到的‘flying objects/飞行物’(‘「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」’)时,更为切合实际:

E.g. the Ramayana tells of a shining beautiful chariot which ‘sped through the air’.
例如:「Ramayana/罗摩耶那」中讲述道…一辆闪闪发光的漂亮战车,这辆战车‘sped through the air/在空中飞驰’

In another passage, they mention seeing a chariot being ‘sailing overhead like a moon.’
在另一章节中,他们提到看到了一辆…‘像「Moon/月亮」那样在头顶航行’…的战车。

Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material.
制造「Vimana/维玛纳」机体的材料必须是坚固且耐用的,像一只(使用)轻材料(制造)的大飞鸟那样。

Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath.
内部,必须将…‘mercury engine/汞引擎’及其钢铁加热装置…置于(机体的)‘underneath/腹部’。

By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky.
通过潜藏在「Mercury/汞」中的力量,(「Mercury/汞」)在(引擎)运转时驱动(生成)旋风,坐在里边的人可以在天空中飞行很远的距离。

The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards.
「Vimana/维玛纳」的运动(模式)是这样的:它可以垂直上升,垂直下降,(以及)前后倾斜移动。

With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth.’
借助(这种)‘machines/飞行器’,「Human Beings/人类」能够在空中飞行,‘heavenly beings/天外来客’可以(藉此)降临到「Earth/地球」上。

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Sorry, my hyperlink re. ‘Alien Worlds in Indian mythology’ should have been
抱歉,我的超链接(重新)‘「Alien Worlds in Indian mythology/印度神话中的外星世界」’应该是

The swami hyperlink may sound a little too fantastic at times.
‘swami/印度教宗教师(斯瓦米)’超链接…有时听起来有点儿太过神奇了。

There is no shortage of images of Hindu Vimanas, though:
但即便如此,「Hindu/印度教」-「Vimanas/维玛纳」的图像…却并不少见:

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^^^)
Arus — Aryan
「Arus」— —「Aryan/雅利安人」

Perhaps they named themselves after Arus’ first born son, Arus II:
或许,他们(即:「Aryan/雅利安人」)是以「Arus I/Arus一世」的长子「Arus-II/Arus二世」的名字…为他们自己命名的:

He left Hyperborea with his followers, and – after a short and bloody battle against the Sumerians – established himself in India. ^^)
他(即:「Arus-II/Arus二世」)和他的追随者们离开了「Hyperborea/极北之地」,并在…经历了一场针对「Sumerians/苏美尔人」(先祖)的短暂且血腥的战斗…之后,在「India/印度」建立了自己的领地。

It could well be that much of the ancient Indian mythology, incl. their detailed depiction of vimanas ^^^^^), is based on the close encounters with Arus II, his leaders and his followers.
很可能‘ancient Indian mythology/古印度神话’中的大部分,包括其对「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」的详细描述,都是基于与…(「Arus II/Arus二世」,及其首领们和追随者们)…的近距离接触。

The CRs do not give any details reg. Arus II rule in India.
「Contact Report(s)/接触报告」并没有就「Arus II/Arus二世」在「India/印度」的统治…给出任何细节(解释/描述)。

But one would think that it was as well based on worshipping his father as creator god.
但有人会认为:这也是基于…将他父亲(即:「Arus I/Arus一世」)崇拜为‘creator god/造物主神’(的原因)。


^^^^^)
Vimanas:
「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」:

http://veda.wikidot.com/ancient-sanskrit-from-india-tell-of-ufo-visit

Interestingly the many Hindu temples all over the world – Cambodia (Angkor Wat), Indonesia (Yokyakarta), India or any other place they all are shaped in the form of the heavenly vimanas…
有趣的是,世界各地…{「Cambodia/柬埔寨」(「Angkor Wat/吴哥窟」)、「Indonesia/印度尼西亚」(「Yokyakarta/约克亚卡塔」,即:横滨)、「India/印度」或任何其它地方}…的许多「Hindu/印度教」寺庙,都是以神圣的「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」的造型建造的…


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Could this actually be recorded history from an ancient Earthlings point of view from their comprehension or perception of advanced technology in that period of time regarding extraterrestrials visiting Earth?
从一个…{远古‘Earthlings/地球人’,在那个时代,对于「Extraterrestrials/外星人」造访「Earth/地球」(所展现出来)的先进技术…(所能达到)的理解和感知}…的观点来看,这真的能够被记录(成)为历史吗?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vimanas/esp_vimanas_3.html

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Some fairly recent and interesting ancient history about the city of Dwarka, ~30,000 plus years ago.
一些(直到)最近才披露的…关于「The City Of Dwarka/德瓦卡城」(即:矮人之城)(距今大约30,000多年前)的有趣古代史。

Of course, the ignorant and unknowing Earthlings at the time obviously did not understand what was actually happening and saw these extraterrestrials as God’s…
当然,那个时代愚昧无知的‘Earthlings/地球人’显然并不清楚究竟发生了什么,他们将这些「Extraterrestrials/外星人」视做‘God’s/诸神’…

And worshiped them as well…
并对他们顶礼膜拜…

Slowly it’s being proven that these God’s were in fact human being’s from other worlds, some of which had a blue color or hue to their skin.
渐渐地,这些‘God’s/诸神’被证实…其实是来自其它世界的「Human Being/人类」,其中的一些(「Human Being/人类」)拥有蓝色或蓝色调的皮肤。

Kenneth
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– Lord Krishna in Dwarka –
– 德瓦卡城的克利须那神 –
— —该图片取材自:https://rafalreyzer.com/the-underwater-ruins-of-dwarka/
  • Dwarka – Pre-Harappan City That Could Rewrite The History Of The World:
  • 「Dwarka/德瓦卡(城)」(即:矮人之城)——‘Pre-Harappan City/前哈拉帕(印度)文明的城市’,该城市能够改写「The History Of The World/世界的历史」:

His Saubha clung to the sky at a league’s length…
他的「Saubha/索卜哈」(注:印度语)在天空中、在一定距离上咬住我不放…

He threw at me rockets, missiles, spears, spikes, battle-axes, three-bladed javelins, flame-throwers, without pausing.
他不停地向我投掷‘rockets/火箭弹’、‘missiles/导弹’、‘spears/长矛’、‘spikes/尖刺’、‘battle-axes/战斧’、‘three-bladed javelins/三叶标枪’、‘flame-throwers/火焰喷射器’。

The sky… seemed to hold a hundred suns, a hundred moons… and a hundred myriad stars.
天空…就好像充斥着一百个「Suns/太阳」,一百个「Moons/月亮」…以及千千万万颗‘stars/星星’。

Neither day nor night could be made out, or the points of compass.
搞不清楚是白天…还是黑夜,也搞不清楚东、南、西、北。

Krishna returned the fire.
「Krishna/克利须那神」还击了。

I warded them off as they loomed toward me.
当他们赫然向我逼近时,我避开了他们。

With my swift-striking shafts, as they flashed through the sky.
凭借我迅捷的机动,当他们穿过天空闪现(在我面前)时(,我有效地避开了他们)。

And I cut them into two or three pieces with mine.
(然后)我用‘mine/空域雷’将他们‘cut/炸’成了两三块儿。

There was a great din in the sky above.
上述‘sky/空域’中(随即)出现了一片嘈杂。


Around 1500 BC the whole western coast of India mysteriously disappeared along with Dwarka – the great city of gold.
在大约公元前1,500年的时候,「India/印度」的整个西海岸…连同「Dwarka/德瓦卡(城)」(即:矮人之城)(那「The Great City Gf Gold/伟大的黄金之城」)一起,神秘地消失了。

The deluge came and the submergence took place immediately after Sri Krishna departed from the world.
就在「Sri Krishna/斯里·克利须那神」离世之后,洪水(随即)到来,淹没立刻发生。


  • The Lost City Of Dwarka—A City Built By A God, and Attacked by a Vimana…
  • 「The Lost City Of Dwarka/失落的德瓦卡城」(即:矮人之城)——由一位‘God/神明’建造的城市,被一架「Vimana/维玛纳」袭击了…

This legendary ancient city is said to have been founded by Sri Krishna and is considered an extremely important historical landmark in the Mahabharata.
这座传说中的古城,据说是由「Sri Krishna/斯里·克利须那神」创建的,并被认为是「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」中…一个极其重要的「Historical Landmark/历史标地」。

The modern city of Dwarka which in Sanskrit means ‘Gateway to heaven’ is located north-west of the Indian State of Gujarat.
「The Modern City Of Dwarka/现代德瓦卡城」…在「Sanskrit/梵语」中的意思是「Gateway To Heaven/通往天堂的门户」,位于印度「State Of Gujarat/古吉拉特邦」的西北部。

The ancient city is mentioned in a number of ancient texts including the Mahabharata, the Shrimad Bhagavad Gita, the Harivamsha as well as the Skanda Purana, and the Vishnu Purana.
这座古城在许多古代文献中都有提及,包括「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」、「Shrimad Bhagavad Gita/什里马德·巴加瓦德·吉塔」(注:印地语)、「Harivamsha/哈里瓦萨」(注:印地语),以及「Skanda Purana/斯坎达·普拉纳」,还有「Vishnu Purana/毗湿奴往世书」(注:印地语)。


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The Origin of The Major Indian Gods / Philosophies – A Hypothesis
主要印度诸神/哲学思想的起源——极北之民

In 2016 Kenneth and I were discussing the skin colour of Indian gods). 在2016年,Kenneth和我讨论了印度‘gods/诸神’的肤色)。

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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14942.html#POST78653
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14942.html#POST78666
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14942.html#POST78687

To this discussion I would like to add a few further thoughts strengthening our 2016 hypothesis:
针对这次讨论,我想要补充一些…更进一步的想法,以强化我们在2016年(提出)的假设:

The main Indian gods (Lord Vishnu, Krishna, Shiva, Ram etc.) are always pictured in a dusky (darkish) blue skin colour.
主要的印度‘gods/诸神’(「Vishnu/毗湿奴神」,「Krishna/克利须那神」,「Shiva/湿婆神」,「Ram」等)总是被描绘成…(拥有)暗的(微暗)蓝色的肤色。

This may well point to a connection with the blue race living on our planet:
这很可能表明了…(这些人)与生活在我们星球上的‘blue race/蓝色种族’之间…所存在的某种联系:

The people of Mu and Agartha.
也就是「Mu(大陆)」还有「Agartha(地下城)」的居民。

This connection may have a good reason:
这种联系有可能存在一个很好的理由:

CR 70:131/132 ) mentions that the Indian people split away from Arus II and supported Mu/Agartha.
‘CR/接触报告’-070#(131/132句)) 中有提到: 印度人民脱离了「Arus II/Arus二世」(的统治),(转而)支持「Mu(大陆)」/「Agartha(地下城)」。

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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_070

CR70:
「Contact Report/接触报告」-070#:

  • 接触时间:1977年01月06日,星期四,00:01
  • 接触地点:Billy住所附近(瑞士乡间的森林深处)
  • 联邦使者:Semjase

Semjase:
Semjase:

131. Coming from the north, Arus’ son, Arus the Second, set out and fell upon those lands which today you call India, Pakistan and Persia etc. whereby they struck the earliest forefathers of the Sumerians, who, peace-loving, fled and set down far in the south, folk of dark-coloured skin, but by your terms, no Negroid but like Europeans and of tall growth, risen from a race of former Sirian refuges, who had likewise settled on the Earth 33000 years ago, as did the refugees from the Plejaren System.

131.「Arus」的儿子,‘Arus the Second/Arus二世’,从北方而来,出发并降落在…如今你们称之为「India/印度」、「Pakistan/巴基斯坦」和「Persia/波斯」等的土地上,在那里,他们袭击了「Sumerians/苏美尔人」最早期热爱和平的先祖,后者被迫逃离并定居在了南方很远的地方,这些人拥有深色的皮肤,但用你的措辞解释,这些人并不是「Negroid/黑种人」,而像是「Europeans/欧洲人」,这些人拥有很高的个子,起源于前「Sirian/天狼星」难民的一个种族,同样的,后者早在33,000年前就(已经)在「Earth/地球」上定居了,就像来自「Plejaren」星系的(所有)难民一样。

利昂注释:上述注释中的时间表述“33,000”,实际应为“133,000”。

132. Named after Arus the Second, the India of today was called Arien*), which, however split off from Hyperborea after a few centuries, after 210 years, to be exact, and joined with the inhabitants of Mu and Agartha …

132. 以‘Arus the Second/Arus二世’为名,如今的「India/印度」在当时被称为「Arien」 *),然而,后者在几个世纪之后,确切地说,是在210年后,脱离了「Hyperborea/极北之地」(的统治),并与「Mu(大陆)」和「Agartha(地下城)」的居民站到了一起…

*) Interestingly the Shah had renamed Persia ^) into Iran which stands for the ‘Land of the Aryans’
*) 有趣的是,「Shah/沙」(注:旧时伊朗国王的称号)(之前)已经将「Persia/波斯」^) 更名为「Iran/伊朗」,该名称代表了“「Land of the Aryans/雅利安人的土地」”。

Before 1935 Western countries had called the country Persia ^) (and in 1943 Churchill re-established that name for a time) but the people of this country had always called themselves Aryans
在1935年之前,西方国家都将这个国家称为“「Persia/波斯」”^)(在1943年,「Churchill/丘吉尔」曾有一段时间重建了这个名称),但是,这个国家的人民总是称他们自己为「Aryans/雅利安人」。

^) Greek mythology alleges that Perseus was the ancestor of all Persians.
^)「Greek/希腊」神话声称:「Perseus/珀修斯」是所有「Persians/波斯人」的祖先。

Hence the name of the country – Persia (which is Latin for the ancient Greek ‘Persis’ )
因此,这个国家的名字(叫做)「Persia/波斯」(这是对古「Greek/希腊」(语)「Persis」一词的「Latin/拉丁语」表述)。

  • German Origin:
  • — —「German Origin/德文源本」:

131. Dort vom Norden aus, machte sich Arus‘ Sohn Arus II auf und fiel in jene Lande ein, die ihr heute Indien, Pakistan und Persien usw. nennt, wobei sie auf die frühesten Vorfahren der Sumerer stiessen, die, friedliebend, flüchteten und sich weit in den Süden absetzten, ein Volk von dunkler Hautfarbe, jedoch nach euren Begriffen nicht negrid, sondern europid und von grossem Wuchs, hervorgegangen aus einer Rasse der einstigen Sirianerflüchtlinge, die sich ebenefalls vor 33,000 Jahren im Gleichpart der Plejarenflüchtlinge auf der Erde festsetzten.

利昂注释:上述注释中的时间表述“33,000”,实际应为“133,000”。

132. Nach der Benennnung von Arus II wurde das heutig Indien damals Arien genannt, das jedoch nach wenigen Jahrhunderten sich von Hyperborea abspaltete, genau gesagt nach 210 Jahren, und isch mit den Bewohnern von Mu und Agartha verbündete…

So it would make perfectly sense that MU/Agartha’s rulers would support the Indians.
因此,「Mu(大陆)」/「Agartha(地下城)」的统治者会支持「Indians/印度人」,也完全在情理之中。

Many of their Hindu texts (Vedas) confirm that these blue skinned gods had ‘flying machines’ called ‘Vimanas’:
有许多印度教文献(「Vedas/吠陀」)都证实:这些蓝皮肤的‘gods/诸神’拥有被称为‘「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」’的‘flying machines/飞行器’:

Mahabharata: two story ‘air chariots with windows’ powered by ‘winged lighting’ – ‘soaring through the air towards solar and stellar regions’
-「Mahabharata/摩诃婆罗多」:双层的‘有窗户的空中战车’由‘winged lighting/翼灯’驱动——‘升腾着穿越天空,并朝着太阳和恒星区飞去’。

Rig Veda: a vehicle designed to operate on ground, in air and water – a vehicle that operates on power – a vehicle of 3 stories
-「Rig Veda/里格·韦达」:一种设计(能够)在地面、空中和水中行驶的车辆;一种依靠电力驱动的车辆;一种有三层的车辆。

MOST HINDU TEMPLES ARE BUILT IN THE FORM OF THESE VIMANAS.
大多数印度教寺庙都是以这些「Vimanas/维玛纳斯」的造型建造的

We may further hypothesize that some of the very deep Indian ‘Wisdom’ (Indian ‘Vedas’), i.e. some of their philosophies / mythologies (e.g. Rig Veda, Ayurveda etc. ?) may point to a Mu/Agartha origin.
我们可以进一步假设:一些非常深奥的印度‘Wisdom/智慧’(印度‘「Vedas/吠陀」’),也就是它们的一些哲学/神话(例如:「Rig Veda/里格·韦达」,「Ayurveda/阿育吠陀」等?)都有可能指向了一种「Mu(大陆)」/「Agartha(地下城)」的起源。

Would there be further information (than ) in Billy’s CRs or other literature? 在Billy的‘CRs/接触报告’和其它文献中,会不会有更进一步的信息(而不是…) 呢?

***) see as well:
***) 另见:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13273.html#POST70880

Salome,
Salome,

Bill
Tat_tvam_asi/ Bill


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