FIGU Forum Q&A – Shroud of Turin/FIGU论坛问答 – 都灵裹尸布

资讯源头:FIGU/ ‘Billy’ Eduard Albert Meier

资讯主题:FIGU论坛问答 之 “Shroud of Turin”
资讯来源:「FIGU Forum」
http://forum.figu.org/..(资讯链接随问题注释)
内容中译:利昂小子
校译日期:2019年08月24日,周六
推送类型:中文域-[中译]
资讯备注:这是一篇非正式且未经授权的中译版资讯,内容基于英文源版译制,请注意我们的译文可能存在错误。
资讯注释:FIGU论坛上的回复不一定都是Billy本人做出的,也有可能是经由「Semjase Silver Star Center/Semjase银星中心」的核心小组成员转达Billy的意思;又或依据Billy的教导和解释做出的说明。

Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Billy.
Billy,您好。

The TJ 30: 60,61 says:
在「Talmud Jmmanuel」第30节、第60和61句中说道:

60: Pilate orderd that Jmmanuel be turned over to Joseph.
60:「Pilate」(即:彼拉多)-[注] 下令将「Jmmanuel」(即:以马内利)交给「Joseph」(即:约瑟夫)。
61: Many people went with him and they took Jmmanuel off the cross. Joseph wrapped the body in pure linen THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY PAINTED SO AS TO FORM AN IMAGE OF JMMANUEL.
61:许多人都随他(即:Joseph/约瑟夫)一同前往,并将「Jmmanuel」(即:以马内利)从「The Cross/十字架」上搀下来。「Joseph」(即:约瑟夫)用(一块)…他以前画过的…纯亚麻布包裹住(「Jmmanuel」,即:以马内利)(的)‘body/尸体’,以便‘FORM/显露出’一个「Jmmanuel」(即:以马内利)的形象。

——360百科注释:「Pontius Pilate/本丢·彼拉多」

本丢·彼拉多(?-41年),罗马帝国犹太行省总督(26年-36年)。根据新约圣经所述,曾多度审问耶稣,原本不认为耶稣犯了什么罪,却在仇视耶稣的犹太宗教领袖的压力下,判处耶稣钉死在十字架上。
https://baike.so.com/doc/1452741-1535790.html

Billy, what was Joseph’s purpose in doing that?
Billy,「Joseph」(即:约瑟夫)这么做的目的,是什么呢?

Surely, this is not a reference to the so-called ‘Shroud of Turin.’
当然,这并不是指…那所谓的‘「Shroud of Turin/都灵裹尸布」’。

Nestingwave
Nestingwave

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

No, the ‘Shroud of Turin’ depicts another person.
是的(即:你说的很对),‘「Shroud of Turin/都灵裹尸布」’描绘的是另一个人。

This was a custom that was executed sometimes in those times.
这在过去是一种风俗,在那些时代…有时就会这么做。

You can compare it with making death masks of famous deceased persons, or the masks from the old Egyptians.
你可以把它(即:Joseph/约瑟夫的行为)比作…‘making death masks of famous deceased persons/为著名逝者制作死亡面具’,又或是(制作)借鉴古「Egyptians/埃及人」(风俗)的面具。


Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hi Billy,
嗨,Billy,

I remember reading that the Giza Intelligence created the Shroud of Turin.
我记得有读到:「Giza Intelligence/吉萨智能人」创造了「Shroud of Turin/都灵裹尸布」。

Could you list some other events where the Giza Intelligence influenced history that are currenty unknown.
您还能列举其它一些…当前尚未被世人所知的…「Giza Intelligence/吉萨智能人」影响(人类)历史的事件吗?

Norm
Norm

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

The Shroud of Turin was not created by the Giza Intelligences.
「Shroud of Turin/都灵裹尸布」并不是由「Giza Intelligences/吉萨智能人」创造的。

Btw:
顺便说一句:

It shows the image of an Italian merchant in the first half of 1300.
它所展示的,是一位生活在1300年上半年的‘Italian merchant/意大利商人’的形象。

The picture was produced by his brother, an alchemist.
这幅画是由他的兄弟,一位「Alchemist/炼金术士」制作的。

It’s actually the first photograph that was ever produced (with the aid of silver iodide and sunlight).
它实际上是人类有史以来制作的第一张照片(借助「Silver Iodide/碘化银」和阳光)。

Just recently Billy had asked Ptaah about the shroud but has not yet typed down the contact report.
就在最近,Billy还向Ptaah询问了有关该‘shroud/裹尸布’的问题,但(相应的)「Contact Report/接触报告」还没有打出来。

Therefore more details will follow.
因此,随后会有更多的细节披露出来。

Note by CF:
来自Christian Frehner的注释:

The GI were involved with the production of the Fatima vision.
「Giza Intelligence/吉萨智能人」参与了‘Fatima vision/法蒂玛异象’-[注] 的制作。

——360百科注释:「Fatima Event/法蒂玛事件」

1917年5月13日,葡萄牙法蒂玛小镇上,路济亚、方济各和雅琴达三个小牧童自称在放牧时遇见一位周身发光的漂亮夫人,她要求他们三个在接下来每个月的13号来见她,人们都看不见那位夫人,当然都不相信,但是孩子们顶着压力履行自己的诺言并告诉人们会有一个奇迹出现,在10月13日那天,七万人目睹了太阳在天空中盘旋、发光、坠落、又回到天上。
https://baike.so.com/doc/6036469-6249475.html

Question:
论坛上的提问:

Hello Mr. Meier
Meier先生,您好

In a question & answer from this forum in March 2006, someone had asked about the ‘shroud of Turin’.
2006年03月,在这个「Forum/论坛」上的一次问答中,有人提问过关于‘「Shroud of Turin/都灵裹尸布」’的问题。

Part of the answer given was,
(您当时给出的)部分答案是,

It shows the image of an Italian merchant in the first half of 1300.
它所展示的,是一位生活在1300年上半年的‘Italian merchant/意大利商人’的形象。
The picture was produced by his brother, an alchemist.
这幅画是由他的兄弟,一位「Alchemist/炼金术士」制作的。
It’s actually the first photograph that was ever produced (with the aid of silver iodide and sunlight).
它实际上是人类有史以来制作的第一张照片(借助「Silver Iodide/碘化银」和阳光)。

I mentioned this information in an email to Barrie Schwortz, editor and publisher of a ‘shroud of Turin’ website.
我在给Barrie Schwortz(‘「Shroud of Turin/都灵裹尸布」’网站的编辑和出版商)的一封电邮中提到了这一信息。

In a response he stated,
在回信中,他说道,

This was a possibility considered by the STURP [Shroud of Turin Research Project] team in 1978.
这是「STURP」(「Shroud of Turin Research Project/都灵裹尸布研究项目」)团队在1978年考虑过的一种可能性。
Consequently, pyrolisis mass spectrometry, chemical analysis and spectral analyses performed on the Shroud found no evidence of any silver salts or any other silver halides on the cloth, in either the image or non image areas.
结果,在该‘Shroud/裹尸布’上进行的‘pyrolisis mass spectrometry/热解质谱分析’、‘chemical analysis/化学分析’和‘spectral analyses/光谱分析’,无论是在布料的‘image areas图像区域’还是在‘non image areas/非图像区域’,都未发现任何‘silver salts/银盐’(物质)或任何其它‘silver halides/卤化银’(物质)存在的证据。
Your information is not correct according to all of the peer reviewed science.
根据(我们)同行所有的‘reviewed science/复查科学’,你所提供的信息并不正确。

Would there be an explanation as to why the scientists examining the ‘shroud’ were unable to locate any ‘silver salts or halides’?
针对…(为什么科学家在检验该‘shroud/裹尸布’时,无法‘locate/检测出’任何‘silver salts or halides/银盐或卤化银’)…这个问题,有没有一种解释呢?

Or is it perhaps that this information was suppressed?
还是,有可能是…这一信息被压制了?-[注]

利昂注释:

这里的意思是,出于某种原因,相应的解释没有出现在「Contact Report/接触报告」里。

Thank you for your time and explanations.
感谢您花时间看问题并作出解释。

Sincerely,
真诚地,

David Chance
David Chance

Answer:
来自FIGU的回复:

Billy doesn’t know the reason for this.
Billy不清楚发生这种状况的原因。

The salts etc. probably may have dispersed.
盐(物质)等,很可能已经消散了。

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